Comments on: Vista and Net governance discussion on the BBC http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/ An infuriatingly infrequently updated reflection on the Internet, the US, and life in general Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:16:55 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Kieren http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/comment-page-1/#comment-21930 Kieren Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:19:33 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/#comment-21930 Hey Guy. I think the whole Microsoft approach is pretty well thought out as it is: this is the last chance we get to have people stick with Windows no matter what, so let's really tie the bastards in and make as much money as we can. Microsoft is going anti-open source in order to make open source look like a sloppy, cheaper alternative -- it is the other side, rather than just software, rather than just lines of code. Kieren Hey Guy.

I think the whole Microsoft approach is pretty well thought out as it is: this is the last chance we get to have people stick with Windows no matter what, so let’s really tie the bastards in and make as much money as we can.

Microsoft is going anti-open source in order to make open source look like a sloppy, cheaper alternative — it is the other side, rather than just software, rather than just lines of code.

Kieren

]]> By: Guy Kewney http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/comment-page-1/#comment-21886 Guy Kewney Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:42:16 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/#comment-21886 Next time, feel free to quote me! ;) the guy in charge of that session had his own agenda, which wasn't ignorant, but it didn't really give you much of an opening to get other ideas in. A pity. Vista is, I would say, the last time that there will be a chance for Microsoft to impose a new platform on the world. Next rev of Windows the world will have a real choice. And I absolutely buy the "<a href="http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt" rel="nofollow">suicide note</a>" theory of Vista. http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt Next time, feel free to quote me! ;)

the guy in charge of that session had his own agenda, which wasn’t ignorant, but it didn’t really give you much of an opening to get other ideas in. A pity.

Vista is, I would say, the last time that there will be a chance for Microsoft to impose a new platform on the world. Next rev of Windows the world will have a real choice.

And I absolutely buy the “suicide note” theory of Vista.
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt

]]> By: Manek http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/comment-page-1/#comment-21513 Manek Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:41:05 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/#comment-21513 Don't bank on it Kieren. I've been trying to get Vista out of MS for months - and my beat on Techworld is, in fact, OSes. And I still have NO software... Don’t bank on it Kieren. I’ve been trying to get Vista out of MS for months – and my beat on Techworld is, in fact, OSes. And I still have NO software…

]]> By: Kieren http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/comment-page-1/#comment-21305 Kieren Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:00:27 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/#comment-21305 Indeed, they were handing out betas but some MS bigwig with a marketing strategy appears to have decided to prevent any releases of the finished thing, no doubt in some kind of phoney attempt to build up expectation. What makes this all the most stupid is that it had already been released to business. Since OSes are not my usual line of business - there's so many people covering any Windows launch that I find I can't sell anything on it - I never bothered with the beta. Besides, when I did try to play with the Explorer beta, it completely screwed up my machine. I understand Microsoft is now handing Vista out. Presumably there will be some party in London when the consumer launch happens. Kieren Indeed, they were handing out betas but some MS bigwig with a marketing strategy appears to have decided to prevent any releases of the finished thing, no doubt in some kind of phoney attempt to build up expectation.

What makes this all the most stupid is that it had already been released to business. Since OSes are not my usual line of business – there’s so many people covering any Windows launch that I find I can’t sell anything on it – I never bothered with the beta.

Besides, when I did try to play with the Explorer beta, it completely screwed up my machine.

I understand Microsoft is now handing Vista out. Presumably there will be some party in London when the consumer launch happens.

Kieren

]]> By: Guy Clapperton http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/comment-page-1/#comment-21302 Guy Clapperton Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:25:21 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/#comment-21302 Shome Mishtake Shurely - Microsoft gave me a beta of Vista as long ago as November, and I'm damned sure the editors of Vista magazine will have seen it ages ago or else how could they have geared up for their launch? Shome Mishtake Shurely – Microsoft gave me a beta of Vista as long ago as November, and I’m damned sure the editors of Vista magazine will have seen it ages ago or else how could they have geared up for their launch?

]]> By: Digital Planet on net governance and Vista » the billblog http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/comment-page-1/#comment-20806 Digital Planet on net governance and Vista » the billblog Sat, 06 Jan 2007 10:06:36 +0000 http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2007/01/05/vista-and-net-governance-discussion-on-the-bbc/#comment-20806 [...] Kieren has a nice writeup of the whole thing, in which he describes me as woolly mammoth and terrific IT journo Bill Thompson [...] [...] Kieren has a nice writeup of the whole thing, in which he describes me as woolly mammoth and terrific IT journo Bill Thompson [...]

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